LAGUNA BEACH, Calif. – New Union Pacific CEO Jim Vena says his strategy for the railroad is a simple one: Grow through great safety and excellence in operations and service.
Vena, in his first public remarks since becoming chief executive last month, told an investor conference today that UP wants to grow with its customers. “How do you get the growth? Great safety, operating excellence, and service,” he says.
“As a railroad, safety has got to be the foundation of everything we do. We want to be the best in the industry. We’re not there yet,” Vena says, noting that UP needs to take safety to a new level.
The Federal Railroad Administration last week questioned UP’s car and locomotive inspection and maintenance practices following focused inspections conducted in July and August. Vena assured the FRA this week that the railroad is committed to running a safe railroad.
Vena, 65, addressed why he wanted to return to UP after serving as its chief operating officer in 2019 and 2020. “You’d have to be a little bit on the crazy side to want to become the CEO of a company that did not have the opportunity and did not have the chance to win and did not have the basic network to be the best in the industry,” he says.
Vena said that when he was chief operating officer, he quickly made operational changes because there was a lot of low-hanging fruit to be picked, including closing hump yards. Don’t expect the same pace of change now, he says.
“But the opportunity is there. So I came back to work,” Vena says. “We’re going to be the best in service, operational excellence, and safety. And that’s the road we’re on.”
UP’s operations and service suffered in 2021 and 2022 amid widespread crew shortages that prompted shipper complaints, an emergency service order from the Surface Transportation Board, and two days of hearings last year about the unprecedented level of embargoes the railroad used to manage congestion.
Vena was asked what changed in the two years he was away from the railroad. “When you’re operating the railroad, you don’t make one big mistake normally and you cause yourself to impact the system and you slow down, and then you can’t provide the service,” he says. “What happens is you make a lot of small mistakes. And if you make small mistakes, they come back all of a sudden and add up and you wake up one day and you go, “Wow.’”
Vena expressed confidence in the UP operations team and the leadership of Eric Gehringer, executive vice president of operations.
“We’ll see an improvement in the service, an improvement in operational excellence, improvement in safety – and that’s the goal for the company,” Vena says.
Service, he says, should be defined by promises UP has made on a customer-by-customer basis rather than a systemwide trip-plan compliance metric. The best operational metric to watch, he says, is car-miles per day, a “no fluff” measure that begins when a customer releases a car. The metric should be over 200 miles per day.
“We’re going to grow and we’re going to grow by having great service. And customers have to trust us,” Vena says. “Well, that doesn’t turn around overnight. We need to show them that we can be resilient and if something happens we recover.”
An encouraging sign, he says, was the railroad’s quick rebound from flooding that damaged key routes in Southern California after being hit by tropical storm Hilary last month.
UP also needs to get closer to its customers, Vena says. He recalled visiting a big customer early in his career at Canadian National. The railway’s trip plan compliance for that customer was high, Vena says, so he thought he had a good story to tell when seeking a higher rate.
“He stopped me. And I can’t say exactly the sentence he said in public. But he basically told me, ‘WTF? What are you talking about? Your service to us is awful,’” Vena says. “So we need to develop the relationship to truly understand the business, and then we can grow. The business is out there.”
The railroad also needs to make decisions much faster, Vena says. A shipper pulled the new CEO aside at a recent customer forum and explained that his firm was hoping to build a new spur, but UP officials had told him it would take 18 months to reach a decision about serving it.
“It was somebody who wanted to bring a whole bunch more business onto our railroad,” Vena says. “I hate to tell you … three days later we had the answer: Build it and we’ll be there to serve it.”
UP is pushing decision-making down to the local level, where decisions can be made faster by people who are closer to and more familiar with local operations, Vena says.
UP has long had a 55% operating ratio goal – something Vena did not mention and which was absent from the railroad’s 68-slide presentation for the investor conference.
“If you concentrate on O.R. as the driving force of what you do and the decision making, then you’re making a mistake,” Vena says. “O.R. … is a result of what you do. It’s a result of having service, and having operational excellence, safety. But it’s also a result of making sure that you grow your business because there’s nothing better than growing the business.”
Vena did say, however, that UP should have industry leading profit margins.
It was not clear if UP still has a long-term 55% operating ratio goal. Asked if the 55% goal has been dropped, a spokeswoman replied that “our goal is to be industry leading in every metric, and, specifically, in safety, service, and operational excellence.”
Vena spoke at the Morgan Stanley 11th Annual Laguna Conference.
Mr Saunders: The FRA is sending details of the inspection to UP (which should have been sent with the letter) So Vina will get his chance.
Let’s wait and see his response. I am not a fan of Vina but , it will be interesting to see what if anything good happens. Of interest is his comment on PSR. Maybe there is hope after all.
Yes and I am sure Vena is looking forward to them showing up…. if and when. Then I would like to see a graph with how many of the defects were of an EMERGENCY STOP NOW status versus being important but not shutdown worthy like the lock on the bathroom door example or the outside engine room door lock that keeps popping open while the locomotive moving. If you ever watch Virtual Railfan you will see that many times per video.
When Vena gets all of this information then he will have his hand full but I guess that’s why CEO’s get paid the big money. Their lifespans in position can be very short and his case, he has years of damage to undo from his predecessor.
Sounds like he messed the railroad up in the first place so they bring him back? You can’t spell stupid with out UP.
it would be nice to see a railroad put the customer and service first, but it will never happen. I watched proviso hump close, what was already bad service has got worse. I watched the UP go from 5 day a week service on a line to one day if they were lucky then wonder why the customer switched to trucks.
Very insightful comments by Mr. Sanders above …..
Glad to see Mr. Vena has laid out a “vision” for a “Growth Formula” at the Union Pacific, not sure I can agree that it is really a “strategy” at this point as there are many detailed questions/issues to see how this “Growth Formula” will actually work.
Given all of the safety, service, and operational problems at UP these days, all I can say is that Mr. Vean REALLY has his work cut out for him (and good luck!)
After reading about the fatal accident here yesterday where a dispatcher sent a train into a siding that had been occupied for eight months by parked cars I think the UP has a very long way to go.
Didn’t give much praise for the previous CEO.
Poor guy at the local level who makes a decision that turns out to be not so good. Reassigned or unemployed? Just wondering.
I am sure they won’t be making decisions in a vacuum. You would hope that daily conversations would give some kind of idea of what to do,, or who to call. Of course we will have to see as this all plays out.
Conrail ran solid trains twice that far. Railraods always told customers to build spurs and then always argued who would pay to put the switch in.
200 miles per day is barely 8 miles per hour — hardly a fast moving railroad.
Great safety, he said.
Just ask the FRA…
It would be nice to ask the FRA… but they either can’t or are unwilling to document the 22% defect rate they say they discovered at Bailey Yard. That automatically says, “suspicious.” Also he said it along with great service and operational excellence. The key Golden Triangle of Success.
One other thing he said gives hope that Uncle Pete can get things going in the right direction without having to cut all the things he mentioned. He said, “UP is pushing decision-making down to the local level, where decisions can be made faster by people who are closer to and more familiar with local operations…” That is directly opposite from what his pencil pushing predecessor and associates, Lance Fritz was doing. If he is successful in carrying out this strategy, then UP is on its way to being the premier railroad franchise in North America, as they were for many years, If not, then they are on their way to becoming another Penn Central, and we all know how that turned out.