Beginners Revisiting AI for model railroaders

Revisiting AI for model railroaders

By Mitch Horner | July 26, 2024

| Last updated on July 29, 2024


Examining progress made in the field of AI in the past year

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Large language models (LLMs) or as they are colloquially known, AI, have made impressive progress since I last explored possible use cases relating to model railroading last summer, in the form of both chat-based programs and image generation.

With a year having passed between then and now, I thought it would be worth revisiting this technology to see if the aforementioned progress which has been made in the field of LLMs applies to their understanding of model railroading, and the process of their construction. 

A few things to establish from the outset: In the past installment, I used OpenAI’s ChatGPT, which was at the time the gold standard in text-based LLM programs. However, since then, multiple companies have released equally impressive competing products. For the purposes of this article, I’ve used Google’s Gemini.

To start, I began by asking simply “Help me to plan a model railroad.”

An image of a text based AI conversation which reads: Help me to plan a model railroad Show drafts v Absolutely! Planning a model railroad is an exciting first step. Here's a breakdown to get you started: 1. Define Your Space and Budget: • Space: Measure the available area for your layout. Remember, it doesn't have to be a permanent fixture. Consider a modular layout with removable sections for flexibility. • Budget: Model railroads can range from simple to elaborate. Decide how much you're comfortable spending on track, scenery, locomotives, and rolling stock.

Already I notice better response formatting than ChatGPT offered a year ago, with a clearly delineated and bulleted response listing the many considerations a modeler must make as they begin to plan their layout. The response continued:

An image of a tex based AI conversation which reads: 2. Choose Your Scale: The most popular scales are HO (half-inch to the foot) and N (one-quarter inch to the foot). Smaller scales allow for more detail in a limited space, while larger scales offer more intricate detailing possibilities. 3. Pick an Era and Theme: • Era: Do you have a fascination with the steam engine era, the diesel age, or modern high-speed rail? • Theme: Your railroad can depict a specific region, a bustling city scene, a rural branch line, or even a fictional landscape. 4. Design Your Track Layout: • Software: Consider using model railroad design software or browsing online resources for pre-designed layouts that fit your space. • Layout Types: Popular options include simple ovals, loops with passing sidings, and point-to-point layouts for a more realistic journey.

As Model Railroader‘s Cody Grivno pointed out, there are some inaccuracies in the above statement. I’ll let Cody speak for himself: “HO scale is not half-inch to the foot. That’s 1/24 scale, which falls under the large scale umbrella. N scale is not one-quarter inch to the foot. That’s O scale.”

Another difference between ChatGPT and Gemini: Gemini is asking questions in response within the secondary bullet points of each numbered consideration. Admittedly, this could be down to the prompt I began with. As mentioned before, I asked Gemini to “help me to plan a model railroad” while a year ago I had asked ChatGPT to “generate me a model railroad trackplan layout.” The former prompt is clearly superior to the latter, as my understanding of both chat-based LLMs and the hobby of model railroading has grown in the past year. While both prompts express basically the same thought, the former is more open-ended, while the latter includes unnecessary verbiage (“help”) and redundant descriptors (“model railroad trackplan layout.”) 

However, a clear difference emerges between the two regardless of the quality of my prompt: Gemini is asking questions in response, guiding the user, while ChatGPT required follow-up questions on my part, presupposing a baseline of knowledge of railroads in both prototype and scale. 

A screenshot of a chat-based large language model conversation which reads: 7. Construction Time! • Building the Base: Secure a sturdy base for your layout. Plywood is a common choice. • Laying Track: Follow the plan and secure the track to the roadbed • Wiring: If you plan on running trains, you'll need to install a power supply and wiring system. • Scenery Creation: This is where your creativity takes center stage! Design mountains, rivers, towns, and other features according to your chosen theme. Here are some additional resources to help you along the way

Hey! Trains.com included as a reference! I know those guys!

A screenshot of a conversation with a large-language model program which reads: I'd like to build an HO scale layout, but what railroad should I use for inspiration? Choosing a real-world railroad for inspiration in your HO scale layout opens a treasure trove of possibilities! To narrow it down, consider these factors: • Era: Are you drawn to the grandeur of steam locomotives, the sleek lines of diesels, or the futuristic maglev trains? • Location: Do you have a fondness for a specific region, like the mountainous landscapes of the West or the bustling Northeast Corridor? • Railroad Type: Mainline railroads haul freight and passengers across vast distances, while short line railroads serve specific industries or local areas.

Having read through the questions asked of me in response, I decided that I wanted my model railroad layout to be HO scale. I tried to keep my response more or less limited to the information which was provided to me by Gemini in response to my first prompt. Including that information, I then asked “…what railroad should I use for inspiration?”

Gemini responded with three primary considerations to keep in mind: Era, location, and railroad type.

A screenshot with a chat-based large-language model program which reads: Steam Era (1830s-1950s): • Union Pacific Railroad: Famous for its transcontinental route across the American West, the UP operated a variety of powerful steam locomotives. • Baltimore & Ohio Railroad (B&O): A key player in the eastern US, the B&O was known for its innovative use of steam power and its distinctive color scheme. • Southern Pacific Railroad: This railroad linked California to the rest of the country, traversing diverse landscapes from deserts to mountains. Diesel Era (1950s-Present): • Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway (AT&SF): Nicknamed "The Santa Fe," this railroad is known for its iconic red and silver warbonnet paint scheme on its diesel locomotives. • Amtrak: The national passenger railroad service offers a variety of passenger trains across the US, with a mix of locomotive types. • Canadian National Railway (CN): Canada's largest railway operates a vast network across the country, hauling a variety of freight.

From there, Gemini went on to list railroads to consider broken down by era, starting with the steam era (Union Pacific, Baltimore & Ohio, and Southern Pacific) and followed by the diesel era (Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway; Amtrak; and Canadian National). Also, narrow gauge railroads (Denver & Rio Grande Western, Durango & Silverton) are listed for consideration.

A screenshot of a conversation with a chat-based large-language model which reads: The American Northeast during the steam to diesel transition interests me. What railroad would best suit this theme for my layout? Show drafts v The American Northeast during the steam to diesel transition (roughly 1940s-1950s) is a fantastic era for an HO scale model railroad layout! Here are a few railroads that would be well-suited for this theme: 1. Pennsylvania Railroad (PRR): • Pros: The PRR was a giant in the Northeast, with a vast network connecting major cities like New York, Philadelphia, and Pittsburgh. They had a diverse fleet of steam locomotives, including the iconic K4S locomotives, and were early adopters of diesel technology. • Cons: The sheer size of the PRR might be overwhelming for a smaller layout.

I decided that for the purposes of this hypothetical layout, I had an interest in the American Northeast during the steam-to-diesel transition era. In response to that decision, Gemini offered era and location appropriate railroads alongside with a Pro-Con breakdown for each railroad. 

A screenshot of a conversation with a chat-based large-language model program which reads: 4. Lehigh Valley Railroad (LV): • Pros: The LV was a mid-sized railroad focused on coal transportation in Pennsylvania and New Jersey. This focus offers a unique perspective on the steam to diesel era, with plenty of freight options for your layout. They also had some interesting passenger locomotives. • Cons: The LV might be less familiar to some model railroaders. 5. Maine Central Railroad (MEC): • Pros: Another regional New England railroad, the MEC served Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, and Quebec. They had a variety of steam locomotives and transitioned to diesels in the 1950s. Their routes offered scenic possibilities with mountains, forests, and lakes. • Cons: The MEC might be a less popular choice compared to bigger railroads.

From this list of railroads, I decided I would proceed with Maine Central as my prototype. I then asked Gemini “How should I get started?”

A screenshot of a conversation with a chat-based large-language model program which reads: I'd like to model my HO scale layout after Maine Central Railroad. How should I get started? Show drafts v That's a great choice! The Maine Central Railroad (MEC) transitioning from steam to diesel in the 1940s-1950s offers a scenic and dynamic theme for your HO scale layout. Here's a roadmap to get you started: 1. Research the MEC: • Historical Resources: Dive into the history of the MEC. The Maine Historical Society (https://www.mainehistory.org, the Seashore Trolley Museum (https://trolleymuseum.org/), and books on the MEC are great starting points. • Photos and Videos: Look for historical photos and videos of the MEC online or in libraries. Websites like https://www.railpictures.net/showphotos.php?category=13 and https://www.youtube.com/ offer glimpses of MEC locomotives, stations, and landscapes.

The response I received listed steps to take before construction could begin. The list was as follows:

  1. Research the MEC
  2. Define Your Layout Scope
  3. Choose a Specific Era
  4. Design Your Track Plan
  5. Gather Supplies

A screenshot of a conversation with a chat-based large-language model program which reads: Additional Resources: Model Railroader magazine, The National Model Railroad Association, and Maine Central Model Railroad

Additional resources were again listed, which included Model Railroader and an existing Maine Central layout that could serve as inspiration. 

Finally, I wanted to see first-hand the progress made by image generation programs since last writing. I used a different program than last time, this time opting to utilize Microsoft Copilot’s Bing Image Creator. To begin, I also used the same prompt: “model railroad layout, birds eye view, HO scale, mountainous, with tunnel, mining operations and city.” I chose to reuse this prompt as a control, a means of comparing the results while knowing the input remained the same. The result was a marked improvement in both clarity and quality. Locomotives were now more clearly distinguished from buildings, and lines were better defined. 

An AI generated image of a model railroad layout in a mountainous with a city encircled by model railroad tracks

Then, I changed the prompt to better fit the Maine Central prototype theorized above. The prompt: “model railroad set in Maine with green and yellow locomotives, photorealistic.” The results were impressive.

An AI generated image of a model railroad layout with a green and yellow train in the foreground

The locomotives, while not an exact replication of actual Maine Central paint schemes, was an admirable approximation.

An AI generated image of a model railroad with a green and yellow locomotive

The strides made in the field of LLMs in the past year is impressive. It now offers real potential value to model railroaders, particularly to those searching for inspiration or resources for a new layout, or those modelers beginning their first foray into the hobby.

4 thoughts on “Revisiting AI for model railroaders

  1. Ever since we had the promise of a “General Problem Solver” within three years back in the 1950’s (still waiting) AI has has had its ups and plateaus. Overall the trend is upward (e.g. beating Kasparov at chess in the 90’s, IBM’s Watson on Jeopardy in 2011), but we’re still a long way from replacing humans with respect to generalized intelligence. We’re in the midst of yet another AI bubble where lots of folks think we’ve finally gotten there. We haven’t. LLM’s are an interesting step forward, but they’re limited in what they can accomplish, and they’re known to make annoying mistakes.

    LLM’s and image generators of our times can be useful for spurring human thinking. They can bring new facts and new perspectives to the fore, and that’s useful. From there it’s still up to us to fact check and to sanity check. It will stay that way for the foreseeable future. I advise not fighting modern AI; see what you can get out of it and let your imagination run wild, knowing that what it’s offering you, while often useful, can also be suspect.

    I especially like the last image of the “Mainie” engine in the foreground, with the half size yellow engine in the background, not on any track, nuzzling up to the full size on-track yellow engine. Straight out of the mind of a four year old. I could laugh it off and declare AI broken, or I could let it inspire thoughts of a setting with a narrow gauge line operating near a standard gauge line. Your call.

  2. AI (or LLMs) are nothing more than an aggregate of information already out there. The problem with it is that it rearranges and spews out the information in a highly unreliable way.

    I had Linn Westcott to teach me, this generation has AI. I am much better off. The information is THE SAME, however, having an informed, intelligent person to instruct is 100 times better than allowing a computer to puke it up at me unvetted and, as you point out, WRONG.

    1. Though he’s gone, this generation still has Linn Westcott to learn from, in print/digital print.

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