Prototype. The first 20 UP 4-8-8-4s (4000-4019) were built in 1941 to speed traffic across the railroad’s most difficult terrain between Ogden and Wasatch, Utah. Overcoming the grades in this area demanded plenty of tractive effort, but speed was also important on this busy main line. Alco’s Big Boy achieved these goals by delivering its maximum 6,290 drawbar horsepower at 41.4 mph.
Dieselization shortened the Big Boys’ service, and they ran their final miles on Wyoming’s Sherman Hill in the 1950s. Their last regular runs occurred in July 1959. Eight Big Boys have been preserved.
Scale drawings of the 1941 order of Big Boys are included in the Model Railroader Cyclopedia: Vol. 1, Steam Locomotives (Kalmbach).
Common characteristics. Although they come from different makers, the Athearn and Precision Craft Big Boys share a number of characteristics, starting with the chassis. Like most of today’s mass-produced HO articulateds, each locomotive has a pair of engines that swivel beneath the boiler and firebox. This compromise leaves a gap in the steam pipes above the rear cylinders, but it allows the locomotives to negotiate model curves as sharp as 18″ radius. However, the Big Boys look much better on wider curves.
On prototype articulateds the rear engine was rigidly attached, and only the front engine moved from side to side on a hinge between the rear cylinders.
On both models, the wheels and driver tires are nickel silver and have RP-25 contours. All the wheel-sets match the National Model Railroad Association standards.
Both models capture their proto-type’s massive appearance and deliver excellent performance with realistic sound effects that function on conventional DC or DCC. How-ever, these dual-mode models include many user-adjustable configuration variables (CVs) that affect their operation and sound. This means the user may have to do some fine-tuning to obtain optimum performance.
The Big Boy is Athearn’s largest Genesis-series steam locomotive. The model has a crisply detailed plastic boiler shell and cab, which enclose a heavy, die-cast metal chassis and mechanism. Detail on the model is excellent, with finely molded rivets, safety tread on the front platform, and a see-through tread pattern in the running boards. Many individual details are factory-applied. There are even tiny sanding nozzles just above the rails.
The cab is detailed with a working ventilator hatch, beading around its roof edges, and the rounded rear corners typical of Alco construction. The high generator location ahead of the cab is a railroad modification.
The model includes after-cooler brake piping on the pilot deck railings that was used only on the first 20 locomotives. Engines 4020 to 4024 had Wilson radiators behind their pump shields, and some if not all of the earlier engines were changed to match them. The model also includes simulated retracted smoke hood details inside the smokestack casing.
The centipede tender has a steel deck, but the instructions also show a body shell with a wood deck and another with the oil bunker that was used only with engine no. 4005. These alternates are evidently planned for future production of different specific prototypes.
The tender has a McHenry scale magnetic knuckle coupler. A swing-gate dummy coupler is built into the pilot, but parts are provided so it can be replaced with an operating McHenry scale coupler.
The model of no. 4006 has a smooth matte black finish with a bright silver smokebox and firebox. All of the colors are cleanly applied without overspray. The silver lettering is clear and opaque. However, many modelers will want to tone down the bright paint job with some weathering that’s more in keeping with the hard-working prototype’s dusty appearance.
The side rods and valve gear are metal with a realistic steel color, and the eccentric cranks are correctly angled toward the front on both sides. However, the detailed crossheads and piston rods are molded in black acetal plastic.
Athearn’s model closely follows the prototype dimensions starting with properly spaced drivers which have the correct 68″ diameter. The tender and trailing truck wheels are the correct 42″ diameter. However, the pilot wheels are 33″ instead of 36″ diameter, and a scale 12″ has been added between the lead truck and the drivers for more clearance.
Electrical pickup is from all 16 drivers and eight wheels on the tender, so 12 wheels pick up current from each rail.
Performance. Athearn’s Big Boy runs smoothly and quietly. The third set of drivers in the second engine has traction tires, so the 4-8-8-4 delivers enough drawbar pull to haul 127 free-rolling freight cars on straight and level track. Using the model’s default speed range (5.6 to 39.6 mph), the locomotive started suddenly, so most owners will want to reprogram it to lower and expand the speed range.
On DCC, the default speeds were a bit higher (15.2 to 74.2 mph), but here again some fine-tuning of its CVs should help. However, obtaining a smooth starting speed below 5 mph will require programming a custom speed table.
Sound decoder. The model comes with a dual-mode Vibranta sound decoder that’s made for Athearn by Model Rectifier Corp. A push-button radio control is supplied for use on DC, and it can be used to reset some CVs with your power pack. On DC, this unit controls the speed, direction, bell, and whistle.
In DCC operation, the function buttons on the cab control the sound effects. In addition, numerous sound choices and many more adjustable options are available.
A pair of downward facing speakers are hidden in the tender, and the sound system’s volume can be adjusted manually or through a CV. The sound effects are realistic.
The Precision Craft Big Boy is made mostly of die-cast metal. The majority of the model’s 55 ounces are in the boiler, which consists of two well-detailed zinc alloy castings that join at the running boards. The lower half includes the firebox, cab floor, and brackets to mount the various mechanical parts. The top casting includes the upper boiler, sand box, steam dome, stacks, and boiler jacketing details. The cab is a separate casting fitted with wire handrails.
The model’s running boards have a raised edge and safety tread pattern on the walkways. Many details are factory-applied to match specific prototype modifications made during the lifetime of the full-size locomotives. Brake shoes are fitted for each driver, and six tiny sanding nozzles are included on each engine.
The cab details include a good-looking roof with beaded edges and Alco’s rounded rear corners. This engine’s generator is mounted in its as-delivered location (on engines 4000-4019) below the firebox on the right side between the last driver and the trailing truck.
The locomotive’s pilot deck railings include the as-delivered aftercooler piping for the air brake system on 1941 engines 4000-4019. The 1944 models (4020-4024) have the Wilson aftercoolers instead.
Big Boys were fitted with folding smoke hoods; these details are simulated inside the casing surrounding the twin stacks.
A can motor and pair of flywheels are mounted in the middle of the boiler to drive the gearboxes on both engines through concealed drive shafts and universal joints. The side rods and valve gear are metal with a realistic steel color, and the eccentric cranks are correctly angled toward the front on both sides. The crossheads and piston rods are metal castings that match the side rods.
The Precision Craft Big Boy includes a smoke unit that can be turned on or off. During operation it delivers a realistic plume of smoke.
Precision Craft’s matte black paint was smoothly applied on no. 4019. The smokebox and firebox are painted with a realistic dark gun-metal color. The model’s aluminum lettering and numbers are sharp and opaque.
The Precision Craft model matches the prototype dimensions, except for its overall length. A scale 6″ has been added at the engine’s pivot point and 9″ between the lead truck and the drivers to provide clearance on tight curves.
All 16 drivers, two wheels on the lead truck, and four tender wheels pick up current from the rails.
Performance. The Precision Craft Big Boy is a smooth and quiet runner. While it doesn’t use traction tires, its 43 ounces provide sufficient tractive effort to pull 123 free-rolling freight cars on straight and level track. The model’s default speed range on DC is a little slow, but on DCC it’s very close to the prototype locomotive’s speed range. With a little fine-tuning of the CVs, the DC maximum speed can be raised as desired.
Sound and control system. Our sample Big Boy included an automatic dual-mode Electronic Solutions Ulm (ESU) Digital Command Control (DCC) and LokSound sound system concealed within the tender. Dual 1″ speakers are mounted face down on the tender floor. A DC Master control unit, which Precision Craft sells separately, allows the user to control numerous sound effects in DC operation.
In DCC operation the sound effects are controlled by the function buttons on the cab. The sound quality is good, and the system offers a wide range of fine-tuning adjustments. A reset is available in CV8 to restore the factory default settings.
As is the case with many sound-equipped models, the Big Boy’s default volume setting was too loud, but a reduced volume produced more-realistic sounds.
The tender has a Kadee scale magnetic knuckle coupler. A swing-gate dummy coupler is provided on the pilot. However, the dummy coupler can be replaced with a Kadee no. 27 coupler in a special mounting box that’s included.
A difficult choice. These two manufacturers have taken different routes to the same destination. Both models reflect top quality design and construction techniques. Athearn has a reputation for locomotives with excellent plastic bodies and metal chassis, while Precision Craft Models is building its reputation with high quality die-cast metal models.
Performance-wise, there’s only 1/3-ounce difference in drawbar pull between them, so both locomotives can haul 100-plus car consists that’ll be impressive on any layout.
Minor wheelbase changes allow these Big Boys to negotiate tight model curves. Both models will operate on curves down to 18″ radius, while the real locomotives needed a minimum 20-degree curve – that’s equivalent to an HO 40″-radius curve.
In short, the choice here depends upon the buyer’s preference for an all-metal or a plastic-and-metal locomotive model with or without traction tires. Both locomotives are handsome, well-built machines that capture the impressive size, power, and sound of their prototypes.
Automatic dual-mode (DC/DCC) control and sound system
Cab interior with backhead and sliding side windows
Constant directional headlight and backup light
Coupled wheelbase: 124′-0″
(requires an 18″ turntable)
Drawbar pull: 9.1 ounces
Can motor with dual, turned-brass flywheels
Engine and tender weight: 41 ounces (engine alone weighs 33 ounces)
Illuminated train indicators
(“number boards”)
Magnetic knuckle couplers, mounted at the correct height
Minimum radius: 22″
Opening cab ventilator
Plastic and metal construction
Automatic dual-mode (DC/DCC) control and sound system
Cab interior with backhead and crew
Constant directional headlight and backup light
Coupled wheelbase: 125′-3″
(requires an 18″ turntable)
Die-cast metal construction
Drawbar pull: 8.8 ounces
Engine and tender weight: 55 ounces (engine alone weighs 43 ounces)
Fan-driven smoke unit
Five-pole can motor with skew-wound armature and dual turned-brass flywheels
Illuminated train indicators
Magnetic knuckle couplers
Minimum radius: 18″
Opening cab ventilator
Sliding cab windows
Manufacturers
Athearn Inc.
1550 Glenn Curtiss St.
Carson, CA 90746
www.athearn.com
Precision Craft Models Inc.
4 Signal Ave.
Ormond Beach, FL 32174
www.precisioncraft models.com
Description
Ready-to-run steam locomotives
Model list: (all Union Pacific)
Athearn engines with sound and DCC: 4005, 4006, and unnumbered, $449.98 each
Precision Craft Models engine numbers with sound and DCC:
1941 versions: 4002, 4019, and unlettered, $749.99 each; 1944 versions: 4023, 4024, and unlettered, $749.99 each.
DC only (with NMRA DCC socket): 1941 versions: 4003, 4014, and unlettered, $649.99 each; 1944 versions: 4021, 4022, and unlettered, $649.99 each; sound decoder and DCC upgrade kit, $129.99
Price determines everything in this case. Is the PCS model actually worth an extra $300.00??? Nope, don't think so…
I have the PCM Big Boy wow the detail is superb, I also have an Athearn Challenger which is nice as well but for operation there is no comparison. The Big Boy is so smooth and it runs very slow. The start up is great as well the sounds are good except the brakes are kind of cheesy.
The PCM is the better unit based on previous experience with MRC decoders and sound. Also one can upgrade the sound later and even program the sounds as they want with the LokSound programmer.
I have both the athearn and PCM big boys. The PCM big boy has superior sound. The detail is amazing and is far better than the athearn. Loksound vs MRC is like a ferrari versus a ford. The PCM is similar to my Trix big boy, they are almost identical. Athearn comes nowhere close to PCM or Trix
Price is not the issue, it is the model, and actualy the PCM is Broadway Limited, the one that is 450 is the cheesy blueline with DC sound but the real one with LOK sound is like $800 !!!! i have both, the blueline LOOKS better but sonds horrible, i replaced it with Lok, so now they sound exacty alike! oh and, Louis F. the PCM ur talking about is the blueline, and yes i agree the chuff is way to fast, but everythink else is perfect!
Greetings! This type of side-by-side evaluation is priceless. Thank you!
I have have two Athearn steamers and they don't look anything like my brass, but the price was right. How-ever, one of them had very rough running characteris-tics. When sent back to Athearn, they fixed the pro-blem but broke the cowcatcher. I have not bothered to operate; it remains in its box.
I will NOT buy the Athearn Big Boy!
Regards,
jjrs
The Athearn smokes with two smoke units. All of the little windows and hatches move. I guess if you have to have die cast,you can pay the extra money?<>>>
Number boards light up.
Superior quality!!
I had the Athearn Big Boy but exchanged it for a PCM after the headlight quite working within the first 30min of operation. the PCM is a great model with excellent detail, and yes, it does have back EMF–you can set it on speed step 1 and watch it crawl forever–if you've got the time. The only problem I have had is that the trailing truck derailed all of the time. I found that a washer placed under the screw in front of the rear truck to space it downward solved the problem.
Thanks MR for the comparison, I have an Athearn Challenger which I think looks and sound very authentic however it won't pull more than 20 40'(weighted to NMRA specs.) cars up a 2.5% grade on DC. I therefore was a little concerned about buying the Athearn Big Boy, the comparison was very informative. Thanks again. John Brown
PCM Big Boy give a very fine detial with good quality black satin color. Its motor generated very powerful smooth running from low to high speed. I encountered derailment problems for both front and rear truck, may I need some adjustment by adding spring from ball point pen in its pivot. ESU always contribute good sound quality, I used to have problem with MRC sound board in my previous 4-6-6-4 Challenger so I dare not to by their Big Boy even it is $200 cheaper.
I have the athearn 4-8-8-4 and It runs jerky. I have a 40 yr. old brass loco that runs much better. I bought a 2-8-2 broadway lim. and that will def. be my last from that group. when I buy something I expect them to do some quality control BEFORE it goes on my table. I kinda feel ripped off. I will go back to the dealer or co. but I think I'll probably have to be much less trusting in the future.
I have the John Deere version of Athearn Big Boy and Challenger and both models details are great and they are very smooth.I don't think the sound is that bad,I have the trix and it is a very nice model, but the Trix and PCM do cost a bit more.Thanks for the side by side comparison it's great.
Thank you for all the information on both units. I also have the Athern Challenger, however, I am quite happy with it. On tour days it will run all day without mishap. I therefor thought that the Big Boy from Athern would be another great addition. I am now going to do my own side by side comparison to see which is the better unit for me. Thanks again, Eric Smith
i think that pcm's big boy is a cool train and some dayi would like to owne one .
i can't believe you guys are willing to pay that much for a loco. i know it's cool and all, but $450? i just thinnk that that's a little over the top. go for the off brands, and add your own additions to make it just right. that's what i do, and Ebay works great for finding extra parts.
PCM model is great, Loksound decoder left much to be desired. I will replace mine w/ a Tsunami decoder from Soundtraxx. Athearn disappointed me with the sound system and (lack thereof) control config, So I opted with the PCM. I will from here on, purchase models without sound and add the Tsunami decoders in the future..
Jim
Nicely done. I know a lot of people will have questions about which Big Boy is best for them. When you are putting out that kind of money, you want to make an informed decision. This Side-by-Side will help them. Thanks.
Steve Moore
kiss@kissmethodinc.com