Money, Miss., is located approximately halfway between Jackson, Miss., and Memphis, Tenn., on CN’s ex-Illinois Central mainline.
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MONEY, Miss. — Two Canadian National trains collided in Mississippi early Sunday morning resulting in an explosion and extensive delays to freight and passenger service.
At least one of the trains was carrying crude oil, which resulted in a fireball explosion, WLOV-TV reports. The incident happened near the small town of Money along CN’s former Illinois Central mainline. Approximately 10 to 12 cars derailed, according to local media.
The incident is delaying Amtrak’s City of New Orleans train and delays to other CN freight trains.
Trains News Wire has reached out to Canadian National and Amtrak for comment.
SKYTRAIN always has employees on board just not in an operating cab. No level crossings and a fully fenced R.O.W. Had a very interesting tour as part of an American Railway Engineering Association meeting a few years ago.
Ed, according to some GoogleMaps research, it is in fact Money, MS.
Maybe as a result of Hunter Harrison’s precision railroad plan they were still following? EHH’s penny pinching is still paying dividends…
Can anyone give me a straight answer about the two trains? Were they following? CTC? How many cars and or locomotives off the track? Anyone hurt? The town is actually Monee, Mississippi.
Ed Burns
Happily retired from Northtown.
The updated news story is still short on details, but says two southbound trains involved.
http://www.msnewsnow.com/story/35295981/railroad-reopens-after-fiery-crash-in-mississippi-delta
“CN spokesman Patrick Waldron says three locomotives and eight cars derailed from one train, while a locomotive and three cars derailed from the second.”
There is a very short list of circumstances that could cause this sort of event.
Hopefully, no one was injured. But that is not clear from any of the local media reports viewed on the web….
I wonder what the status of the PTC installation was on this line?
Mr Carelton: Absolutely! But the state of railroad management has rendered the once able Grenada Line unable to meet the challenge.
Line is reported back open, one tank car leaked/burned.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/tennessee/articles/2017-05-01/railroad-reopens-after-fiery-crash-in-mississippi-delta
The only other article I have found online suggests only one train was involved. Can anyone clarify? Trains reached out to CN about six hours ago and then went home or perhaps to happy hour.
I wouldn’t jump to any conclusions about whether or not this line segment is an early test deployment of PTC or not (perhaps someone else is knowledgeable).
And because we can’t tell from the text so far whether this collision was due to one train passing a nonpermissive restricting signal or otherwise, it’s impossible without more info to opine whether it would’ve been PTC preferable or not.
Very good Mr Bauer. It seems Symonds not only has a problem with Unions but “HUMANS” also.
Mr. Symonds. Please crawl back under all of your stock that you own and are so proud of since you constantly bombard us with how much all of yor stocks have gone up. And then head to your room, light a candle and worship your EHH bobblehead doll and poster that you have taped to the mirror above your ceiling. We get it, you hate the thoughts of human beings having jobs. It cuts into your dividends. I am so sick and tired of hearing from all the “Experts” about how things should run, and those same people probably have no clue about what we do. But what do I know. He will probably just dismiss me as a disgruntled union employee who cuts into his dividend earnings.
Mr Arndt, you forgot about things falling on the tracks or off trains. Or an automated train with no employees of the railroad. And say 10 or 20 kids joyriding.
Mr. Symonds:
https://railforthevalley.wordpress.com/2010/05/29/translink-investigates-skytrain-derailment/
Sometimes “passengers” do somethings, http://www.metronews.ca/news/vancouver/2016/12/10/transit-police-warn-against-riding-outside-of-skytrain-after-multiple-incidents.html
Don’t forget about BART in California. The system uses an automatic train control. And nothing ever goes wrong, like overheated dynamic brake grids smoldering styrofoam insulation, or a hatch cover breaking loose under the bay shorting out the third rail and causing a fire, or the signal system losing trains because the tracks were dirty.
BART has been in operation since 1972. With every problem they learned new lessons.
PTC is an improvement but will not be idiot proof. All you can do is is try to prevent previous accidents from being repeated and try to prevent new types of accidents. The problem is Murphy’s law, where something will go wrong. Somethings are simple fixes like seat belts in cars. Of course trying to convince everyone to wear seatbelts.
Time to start bypassing on the Grenada Railway.
SkyTrain is a light rail system with trains that might weigh about 100 tons. Freight railroads run trains in excess of a mile long weighing many times that of light rail. These are two entirely separate and different things. And what happens if there is a system error with PTC? Who is in control of the train then? Human error is a problem, but human control is not. PTC is not a waste of money, it’s an attempt to remove human error. If the PTC system were to go offline on something like SkyTrain, it would inconvenience a city for a few days max. If the PTC system were to go offline for a large class 1 that uses driverless trains (I know they don’t exist but this is theoretical), it would hurt the economy of a large part of the country. And freight railroading is much more complex than light rail. No single line, scheduled stops, stops at the same location every time. Based on the name, I would imagine SkyTrain has very few if any grade crossings. A freight train can get stopped wherever, get redirected to new lines, get stopped at a yard for classification, need to be shopped along the way, and crossings everywhere. I don’t know about the rest of you, but PTC or not, I want there to be someone on my train
P T C ……………….what a waste of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
SKYTRAIN in BRITISH COLUMBIA,CANADA has been operating since 1987 without an ENGINEER on board.
never had an accident……………..as soon as you put a HUMAN in control and all the P T C in the world will no NOTHING !