News & Reviews News Wire Comparing Amtrak’s ‘contemporary’ and traditional dining NEWSWIRE

Comparing Amtrak’s ‘contemporary’ and traditional dining NEWSWIRE

By Angela Cotey | July 31, 2018

| Last updated on November 3, 2020

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In mid-July, Amtrak announced it had added a hot-meal option to the pre-packaged lunch and dinner service on the Lake Shore Limited and Capitol Limited, where it replaced full dining-car service. The original form of that service, as sampled on the Lake Shore, was examined in “Amtrak debuts cold ‘contemporary’ meals” [“Passenger, September 2018 Trains] and illustrated in greater detail in a News Wire photo gallery [“A look at Amtrak’s new cold meal service,” Trains News Wire, July 5, 2018.]

A journey departing Chicago on July 21 to High Point, N.C., provided an opportunity to evaluate the hot entrée and traveler reaction to “contemporary” dining on the Capitol, and sample “traditional” service as a coach passenger on the Crescent’s dining car.      

Bob Johnston

Jim Proffitt, VP of research and development for Toledo, Ohio-based Autotec Engineering, takes a skeptical “first look” at the “Beef Short Rib” hot entrée substituted into the Capitol Limited’s menu for the “Chilled Grilled Beef Tenderloin Salad.” It is served with a plastic-packaged salad and a jar of salted caramel cheese cake (still in the box). Traveling on Amtrak Guest Reward points, Proffitt opted for a roomette from Chicago to Toledo to try out the new menu.      

16 thoughts on “Comparing Amtrak’s ‘contemporary’ and traditional dining NEWSWIRE

  1. My wife and I returned from Florida two weeks ago after riding the Silver Star from Washington to Tampa and return. I had new trackage riding the Star’s route inland on the former ACL. We rode the Silver Meteor a few years ago with the diner to Orlando and the diner was definitely better. A trip of that length should have a full service dining car, not just a dinette/lounge car. We were coach passengers, by the way. Both cars belong on long distance trains.

  2. Anna Harding:

    I am constantly amazed at the garb of many people in places where you’d think they would dress better. I’m retired, and my life is casual almost all the time, but there are just some times when it’s a good idea to dress up a little-and take one’s hat off.

    As far as MRE’s-at this point, you might be better off with them. I read in the dead trees edition of Trains that the coach riders were not even allowed in the diner, so you might not have much other choice but MRE’s. I look at it this way: I don’t care if I’m allowed to bring my own food or not. Amtrak is not providing a decent, or even reasonable, meal service. Therefore, I’m coming on with my own provisions. Don’t like it?? Run a diner. Expect a fight if you think you’re taking my dinner away.

    It’s probably too much to expect the glory days to return. I rode quite a bit in the late 70’s and early 80’s when there was still a lot of institutional memory for the old days, even with service downgraded from private operators, and some of the heritage equipment was still in play. I ate in ex Pennsy twin unit diners on the Broadway, and a real, honest to God Southern Railway diner on the Crescent. We’ll never see that again. But this is ridiculous.

    George Pins: The green eyeshade and galluses days are looking really good right now.

  3. Me,my wife and Daughter recently rode the Coast Starlight. The real food was good( I had steak, my Daughter had risotto, my Wife had sweet potato gnocchi) on nice plates. Service was very good. We also had the Rails and Trails guys. Three thumbs up from Amtrak from the Brown family.

  4. During the last thirty years we have had many delightful trips on Amtrak always in a sleeper and we have greatly enjoyed the food and service quality in the diner. We have traveled on many long distance trains. Cold contemporary meals are a huge disappointment and not what we paid for and expected when we booked a sleeper on the Lake Shore Limited and the Capitol Limited for November 2018. What a horrible bait and switch! This is hard to believe that this was even considered or worse instituted. What is Mr. Richard Andersson, Amtrak CEO, trying to accomplish? i think a substantial refund is in order. Return to the traditional hot meals and service that had been provided in the diner without delay.

  5. Golly that looks yummy – just like something that might be served in a North Korean prison. )-:

  6. I get it that Amtrak is under the gun from Congress to contain its food costs, but it can surely do better than serving up this stuff that looks like something from a hospital cafeteria. And these are the “entrees” for first-class passengers, no less! What culinary humiliations are being forced on the coach passengers? I’m guessing this is all part of Mr. Anderson’s ongoing attempt to run a railroad as if it’s an airline.

    I recall that during W. Graham Claytor’s tenure as Amtrak’s CEO, he often got out of D.C. headquarters to ride the trains, talk to employees, and generally get a first-hand, up-close look at the operation. When was the last time CEO Anderson rode his railroad? Has he ever done so?

    One more thought — if you don’t like the way Amtrak upper management is running the show, contact your congressional representatives and let them know about it. That’s the only way this thing gets fixed.

  7. This is an insult to the traveling public. I took the Capital from Cleveland to DC R/T with a roomette both ways. The breakfast that was offered was so-so. My return trip I thought I would try the one and only hot meal. 6 PM and they were already out of it. A person in jail or prison get better food then what Amtrak is offering. Shame on you. Get real and go back to full dinning service with hot meals.

  8. Having ridden the Lake Shore in both June and July and tasted the new meals. my first comment is that they are not up to dining car standards. My biggest complaint was the blueberry muffin which of course is served chilled. Who at home keeps muffins chilled. The attendant in the dining car asked me what I thought, and I said “muffin would have been fine if it were warm” She replied that she could heat it, but it was too late. The next trip, I asked if she could heat the muffin, which she did and it was very enjoyable. Could have use some butter, but they have none. She said that they were “tweaking” the menus – they now were carrying milk, which was not available for the first few weeks.

  9. Having just returned from a trip on the Capitol Limited from Chicago to Philadelphia, and returning from Pittsburgh to Chicago, the current meal and breakfast options are INSULTING for those who spend a premium to ride in the sleepers.

  10. I recently saw an article in a certain national newspaper (that Amtrak has been known to hand out) that read like it had been written by Amtrak’s propaganda and disinformation department, as it sounded verbatim with the nonsense coming out of Amtrak about how wonderful and improved the new meals on the Cap and LSL are. Obviously, and unfortunately, Amtrak’s new CEO thinks passengers are too stupid to know they are getting screwed over by his incompetency and that if he just feeds them enough b.s., things will be fine.

    Very sad.

  11. Where is the article. What are the comments. Pictures are worth a 1000 words. But a story would be priceless

  12. First, George, you are not a pitiful remnant of the old days. I was taught quite firmly that I do not wear a hat on a mess deck, nor in a sick bay. It is a sign of respect.

    Second, it looks as if it is time to break out the MREs. Does anyone know if they are allowed on AMTRAK?

    The above comments are general in nature and do not form the basis for an attorney/client relationship. They do not constitute legal advice. I am not your attorney. Go find your own damn lawyer.

  13. Am I just another pitiful remnent of the green eye-shade and galluses crowd when I say that gentlemen do not wear hats when seated in dining cars? I get it that casual attire is acceptable, but could you take your damn hat off?

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