In order to enable the train and locomotives to remain intact for the trip to New Jersey over NS, UP removed its own cab signaling on SD70AH’s Nos. 1943 and 9082 in Council Bluffs and installed Norfolk Southern cab signals. This would enable No. 1943 which is specially painted to honor U.S. Armed Forces to lead on NS, with No. 9082 also equipped to lead in case of a failure with No. 1943 en route. As a result, Union Pacific had to add UP No. 2752 from Council Bluffs to Chicago since this route is equipped with UP cab signals.
At Proviso, UP removed No. 2752 from the train, which continued east from Chicago as Norfolk Southern train 066-30. It’s expected to return west from Croxton on June 4 to Council Bluffs.
Trains News Wire is awaiting comment from UP.
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Anyone have return schedule/route from NJ?
good to see the Boss Train on NS.
Messrs. McWilliams/Ferry/Harrison:
Mr. Dyer’s last sentence is spot on (“…in what is supposed to be a leading publication on the subject, the spelling, grammar and proof reading are frequently terrible.”). Having been a TRAINS/Classic TRAINS subscriber for over four decades, I believe there’s a right to critique the product in hopes of betterment. It disappoints to see their stock and trade, JOURNALISM, which includes proof-reading before publication I do believe, continue to decline in quality on the Newswire. Ditto with mistakes in the recent BIG BOY status update article (hint: 844).
I’m not thin skinned, and I am very open to criticism that’s constructive. But telling me to (sic) “take a hike/get a life as a volunteer elsewhere” if I don’t like the quality of what I’m reading is not the answer. Improving the product that I care about is the only one I, and I do believe others, desire.
When will we ever hear, or read, a response from the editor ever acknowledging these observations? “Crickets”.
With great regard for the First Amendment, I submit my critique/response sans malice.
v/r
Kip
BRADLEY MCWILLIAMS
, well said.
To underscore and add to Kip William Grant’s comments. TRAINS under the supervision and care of Lynn Westcott and David P. Morgan set a standard for hobby journalism unequalled anywhere else and certainly not maintained since their passing. The magazine has had some warm spots over the years, but never again at the temperature especially set by David. TRAINS, Kalmbach, and all railfandom lost the class and consistency Morgan laid down. His loss was noted back then in these same terms but I don’t think understanding how true and how correct they were as stated. Not just TRAINS and Kalmbach but also the pursuit of railfanning needs another David P. Morgan right now.
Why? UP+NS of course!
My scoot ran just ahead of this thing from Proviso to Kedzie. I was getting wheel slip from all of the foam on the rails.
I expect that if Trains knew why UP & NS were running this special, they would say so. Shall we start foamer rumors?
Mr. Larson, “Scoot” was also used by C&NW employees to refer to its commuter trains. Rush-hour trains were also known as “The fleet”.
This story is useless without a statement of the purpose of the trip.
I don’t disagree at all that something being paid for should be up to snuff. But I read a lot of comments from other journals and other forums regarding other subjects, and never do I see punctuation patrols out in force like I do here, let alone with such a critical tone. I can’t help but think two things. One is if a person is that unhappy with the product, stop supporting it. The other is find a worthy cause to place all this worry and frustration into. Maybe find a local RR museum that could use some volunteers?
Norfolk Southern posted a photo of the train earlier today. They state that the train is headed to a ceremony in Harriman, NY. The E.H. Harriman Estate (Arden) is located there. I assume this has something to do with the Harriman family and its legacy with UP.
If you read the entire article you would have seen the last sentence. Trains News Wire is awaiting comment from UP.
Paul Harrison, well said.
Yes…why is this train being run to NJ. And also not mentioned is that on the weekend it will operate west on the former Erie Line, now NJT/MNRR, to Campbell Hall, NY crossing Moodna Viaduct and return to NJ; also without explanation. It is not the fault of TRAINS that the reason is not stated because I’ve not found a reason for the trip nor the side trip on any forum or postings!
Thank you Mr. Harrison. You are 100% correct, and I would that, in what is supposed to be a leading publication on the subject, the spelling, grammar and proof reading are frequently terrible.
Obviously a test run for the future transcontinental running of Big Boy!
Wishful thinking?
Two trivial questions: how did the recent Amtrak policy change impact this movement….and is not “scoot” an old Milw. Rd. term?
The train is already on YouTube coming down Horseshoe curve.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl6NE8VZqC0
There’s criticism of Trains on a regular basis because some people pay for access, and yet their articles are frequently threadbare, omitting critical information, and that’s if they cover a major issue (I remember it taking years for them to cover the NIMBY campaigns against AAF for example, and AAF got little coverage in general until towards the very end. Light rail systems that barely qualified as trains, OTOH, and were pretty unlikely to ever get built, got end-to-end coverage.)
In any case, if an article raises a question it doesn’t answer, doesn’t it make sense to ask that question in the comments?
I give up cause I just don’t get it. Why so much anger and hate toward Trains on every story? Obviously Trains has no reason to withhold info on the trip if they had it, so why call the story “useless”. If we’re not execs with either NS or UP it’s none of our business as to why they ran the trip. (And we’re not)
Next will be some angry comment about how somebody couldn’t finish the article and their life is ruined and how Trains is second rate because a comma was in the wrong spot. It’s an article for guys who like to watch trains. Get over it…