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Amtrak’s Gardner asserts mechanical ranks not thinned by furloughs (corrected)

By Bob Johnston | December 3, 2022

| Last updated on February 10, 2024

Plans for 2023, passenger concerns aired at public Board of Directors meeting

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Amtrak board chairman Anthony Coscia speaks with attendee Terri Hudson at Thursday’s public board meeting in St. Louis. Bob Johnston

ST. LOUIS — Amtrak CEO Stephen Gardner told attendees at a public Board of Directors meeting that no mechanical personnel were furloughed at the beginning of fiscal 2021, although positions remained unfilled as employees opted to retire or take other jobs.

Current board members and Amtrak’s management team held the meeting at St. Louis’ Union Station Hotel ballroom on Thursday.

The first hour reprised recently released fiscal 2022 results [see “Amtrak fiscal 2022 report lists accomplishments …,” Trains News Wire, Nov. 30, 2022], plus a summary of the company’s 2023 business goals and ongoing initiatives. Gardner and Board Chairman Anthony Coscia later answered questions posed by attendees and an online audience.

Workforce issues from attrition, CEO says

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Amtrak CEO Stephen Gardner speaks at the board meeting. Bob Johnston

Asked about ongoing workforce and equipment constraints by Rail Passengers Association CEO Jim Mathews, Gardner said, “We did not furlough engineering and mechanical employees; that’s not what happened. What did happen is that over this period of time when we were not able to hire and didn’t have additional funding…we were not able to overcome the attrition rate.”

Quoting workforce figures for the company as a whole, Gardner added, “Last year we hired 3,600 people or so, but we lost 1,600 people due to retirements, change in jobs, and relocations.” He says Amtrak is building “a huge apparatus to bring people into the company” but there are “acute challenges, particularly in some of our mechanical crafts — electricians and machinists are really tough to be able to get in different locations.”

Gardner pointed to new apprenticeship and entry level training programs as evidence Amtrak is “working every angle to restore people to make the trains available and serve our customers; we just need a little more time through this year but you can be sure that every stone is being [turned] so we can bring great people to this company both to restore service and then grow.”

Revised map of potential routes, new initiatives for 2023

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The updated Amtrak map showing current and possible passenger routes, as projected at the board meeting. Bob Johnston

Noteworthy among presentations that looked ahead was an updated “Expressions of Interest” map unveiled by Executive Vice President Dennis Newman that updates the “ConnectsUS” corridor map [available here] by adding routes where entities have expressed a formal desire to add service through the Federal Railroad Administration’s Corridor Identification and Development Program.

The new map adds the former North Coast Hiawatha’s Fargo, N.D. to Spokane, Wash., route; a proposed Los Angeles-Las Vegas, Nev., Salt Lake City-Boise, Idaho, service; and a Dallas extension to the New York-New Orleans-Crescent. The additions all represent instances where grassroots support has surfaced for new regional or long-distance trains.

Other presenters offered a look at initiatives for fiscal 2023:

— President Roger Harris outlined previously unannounced efforts to “improve the customer experience across the Amtrak journey.” These include upgrades to the ticketing website and smartphone app; distribution of handheld devices to all onboard employees “to get more consistent delay information out to customers;” and introduction of food-cart service on the Northeast Corridor. He also announced a redesigned Customer Satisfaction Index survey “that gives us actual feedback [from passengers] so we can go back and fix the product.” A “self-serve” rebooking option is rolling out now, Harris said, that will allow travelers to change to another departure when their train is late without having to call Amtrak’s reservation phone number.

— Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer Tracie Winbigler said the company is projecting a 25% increase in ticket revenue to $2.2 billion and a 61% increase in capital spending to $3.6 billion.

— Laura Mason, executive vice president of capital delivery, said $1.4 billion of the capital funds will be spent on significant Northeast Corridor megaprojects, such as replacing Baltimore’s B&P Tunnels, leveraged with federal grants. Three concurrent fleet replacement programs for Acela, Amfleet, and long-distance rolling stock are also underway [see “Long-distance capacity to remain tight …,” News Wire, Nov. 16, 2022].

Attendees ask about equipment, marketing

Gardner told attendee Terri Hudson area that Amtrak can’t expand long-distance routes without additional funding from the federal government.

Answering a question from audience member Dave Randall, about the lack of sufficient Superliners to run long-distance service, Gardner said “stored equipment that is no longer commercially viable are essentially donations to the parts supply; we also have to analyze the dollars available. [Obtaining] additional capital necessary to put equipment back in service requires support funding to do that.” He said the challenge every day is how to get more equipment back in service “just to catch up on overhauls and maintain the current fleet.”

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Siemens Venture cars arrive in St. Louis on train No. 319. Amtrak CEO Stephen Gardner says that fewer than half the cars Amtrak expected to be running by now are in operation. Bob Johnston

Gardner also revealed Amtrak had expected 60 Siemens Venture cars purchased by Midwest states would be operating in 2022, but production and quality-control issues resulted in operations where “35 cars fewer” are available.

He noted that the challenge with equipment procurement is that U.S. affiliates of foreign carbuilders have no incentive to offer “off the shelf” U.S. models because orders are limited. “The 28 high-speed [Acela] trains being built here corresponds to many hundreds [built] in Europe,” he said, adding, “the vehicles we’re purchasing these days are incredibly complex; they offer many more features but take longer to construct.”

Other speakers expressed disappointment in Amtrak’s regional marketing efforts and uneven financial support by states such as Missouri, where recurring funding shortfalls have resulted in periodic discontinuances of the second Missouri River Runner round trip. Coscia admitted, “There is a meaningful difference between states in terms of their ability to be supportive of passenger rail,” but emphasized that Amtrak’s outreach efforts are continuing and are best demonstrated by running trains well around the country.

Just before the end of the session, an attendee told the Amtrak executives and board members that the Texas Eagle operating without a Sightseer Lounge and dining car meals available to all passengers was “an abomination,” and urged that the lounge be restored “as quickly as possible.” With time running out, “thank you” was Coscia’s response as he took the final question.

— Updated Dec. 5 at 4:50 p.m. CST to clarify and correct information about “expressions of interest” map shown at board meeting.

17 thoughts on “Amtrak’s Gardner asserts mechanical ranks not thinned by furloughs (corrected)

  1. That lack of funding statement from Gardner is pathetic. You have a company in upstate New York that built new dinners, sleepers and bag cars on the Viewliner platform. How difficult is it to take the same platform and build coaches, lounge cars and a real worth your extra fare business class cars? It might be true that you didn’t furlough any mechanical but plenty pulled the pin or walked away. The board and top Amtrak management all need to be canned.

  2. So they’re cannibalizing some Superliners to keep the remainder operating yet no plans for replacement? So I guess this is how they will eliminate the LD routes through attrition? So Gardner says they can’t expand LD routes and can’t get equipment back into svc without additional funding, what happened to the generous infusion of capital from the Infrastructure bill? They have plenty of funds to p**s away on the NEC or is that because they’re siphoning off the funds meant for the National network. They need to seriously split Amtrak into three independent units to remedy this funding fraud.

  3. Furloughs not occuring. If we can not find mechanical persons who were furloughed then we can verifyy Gardner’s statement. So check that fact.

  4. So, over the last 2 months I’ve road the Coast Starlight, Empire Builder, Texas Eagle , Sunset Limited and Cardinal. Even though they’re rolling out re-conditioned equipment, maintenance is a huge issue. Windows are flat out embarrassing, I was able to get out at a station in DC and clean my window on the Cardinal, the crew chuckled!! As stated earlier, the Texas Eagle was the worst, they run in like a commuter cattle car, if you walk around or try to get off at stops you get the evil eye. Heaven forbid your in a old blue cloth material seat SuperLiner car. Odd, new seats, but same old bathrooms and rug siding. I guess I’m a glutton for punishment, I really enjoy the rails, but Amtrak makes it tough.

    One thought, they could add 12 inches in coach, charge say an additional $50, and you’d have a great experience.

    Only place I found Business Class was on the Coast Starlight, they “let” you come up to the diner vs feeling like a second class citizen.

    Amtrak is plagued with inconsistent service and policies. Ie. Who can sit in the coach dining car and not and why??

    Just some thoughts…

  5. So, over the last 2 months I’ve road the Coast Starlight, Empire Builder, Texas Eagle , Sunset Limited and Cardinal. Even though they’re rolling out re-conditioned equipment, maintenance is a huge issue. Windows are flat out embarrassing, I was able to get out at a station in DC and clean my window on the Cardinal, the crew chuckled!! As stated earlier, the Texas Eagle was the worst, they run in like a commuter cattle car, if you walk around or try to get off at stops you get the evil eye. Heaven forbid your in a old blue cloth material seat Superljner car. Odd, new seats, but same old bathrooms and rug siding. I guess I’m a glutton for punishment, I really enjoy the rails, but Amtrak makes it tough.

    One thought, they could add 12 inches in coach, charge say an additional $50, and you’d have a great experience.

    Only place I found Business Class was on the Coast Starlight, they “let” you come up to the diner vs feeling like a second class citizen.

    Amtrak is plagued with inconsistent service and policies. Ie. Who can sit in the coach dining car and not and why??

    Just some thoughts…

  6. The failure of the Siemens order should disgrace Gardner and AMTRAK’s board and Siemens. You can’t fix a problem in two years? Is AMTRAK pursuing damages, or didn’t they negotiate that into the contract? Further, if Siemens can deliver satisfactory cars to Brightline, why couldn’t they do that for AMTRAK? Indeed, why couldn’t AMTRAK have bought off the shelf European models?

    1. European and North American passenger car construction standards are quite different. They are not transferable.

  7. Coscia’s quickly adjourning the meeting after being challenged about the downgrading of Texas Eagle obs was and is an utter disgrace. But no one should be surprised. If I could answer the questioner I’d tell him/her it’s because Amtrak wants the train gone and so they are resorting to the same tactic the train’s heritage railroad, Missouri Pacific, used in the mid-50s to run the business off. And that pathetic RPA President, James Mathews, apparently did nothing, said nothing to stop the abrupt shutdown and challenge Coscia to address the issue. Nor did Mathews apparently challenge in any significant way. Gardner’s assertion of not laying off Mech.Dept personnel or address the CHICAGO “Hub” trains cut off for lack of crews or eq or both. “If you had not had the 2020 layoffs, wouldn’t those trains be operating now?”, should have been the question Mathews asked. But RPA continues to shill for and protect Coscia and Gardner. RPA has no other place to turn.

    1. Upvote from a former longtime NARP/ RPA member. RPA doesn’t now speak for me or get my money. Kind of rhymes with AARP, another organization I don’t belong to.

  8. Then from what crafts were those who were furloughed in the 2020 “massacre”? We know Gardner and Coscia announced back then they were furloughing a significant number of workers. So if they didn’t come from Engineering and Mechanical, from where did they come?

  9. Before any consideration of “new” routes, all the current 3/5 day a week, should be made DAILY.!! a no brainer.

  10. Amtrak should be working on getting that backlog of equipment sitting in yards and repair shops fixed and out on the line while waiting for the new locos and cars to arrive. There is still plenty of life in the old equipment that it can still be used in service. Besides the older cars and locomotives have had a longer operating life and durability over most of the new equipment coming on line now.
    Joseph C. Markfelder

  11. The map appears to illustrate corridors where expressions of interest have been submitted to FRA under the Corridor Identification and Development Program. Did they specifically say this map replaces the ConnectsUS map?

  12. The map of proposed routes looks like a real hodge podge. Sure would be great to see more direct connections radiating out of Atlanta in all directions.

    1. I see the new map still excludes Nashville to Atlanta which still puts the caboosch on a Chicago to Miami route, the old Floridian.

    2. Too slow, single track. Whenever I see that line I wonder if it has improved much since William S. Rosecrans seized it from Braxton Bragg in 1862 – 1863.

      Hardly matters, being that the answer from CSX would be “no way”.

    3. Charles I would agree with you when it comes to past CSX leadership. But it appears that the new CEO might be more open to working with passenger rail.

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