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Heartland Flyer’s challenging connections with the Southwest Chief

By Bob Johnston | July 31, 2023

| Last updated on February 3, 2024


BeeLine Express bus line steps up for passengers when trains are late

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Time-exposure photo of passenger train blurred as it passes station building at night
The westbound Southwest Chief slips past the former Santa Fe station at Newton, Kan., at 2:45 a.m. on July 20, 2023. The Amtrak waiting room occupies a small portion of the historic building, which now contains a law office. Bob Johnston

NEWTON, Kan. — Extending the Heartland Flyer 198 miles to connect with the Chicago-Los Angeles Southwest Chief at Newton, Kan., has been a goal of passenger rail advocates ever since the state-funded train between Fort Worth, Texas, and Oklahoma City debuted in June 1999.

In the meantime, passengers wishing to travel between these north-south and east-west routes utilize a nocturnal Amtrak Thruway bus service operated by BeeLine Express. The northbound bus departs Oklahoma City in the evening after the Flyer arrives, rolling into Newton before both Chiefs are scheduled to stop. It then returns south after they depart, arriving at the Oklahoma City Amtrak station in time for patrons to catch the southbound train to Fort Worth. At least, that’s the way it is supposed to work.

With corridor designation and infrastructure improvement grant applications seeking to extend the Heartland Flyer to Newton, Trains News Wire recently traveled from Chicago to an event in Marshall, Texas, via Newton, Oklahoma City, and Fort Worth to evaluate the current setup.

Ticketing through connections is key

The table below shows how the Flyer and Chief connect if all trains are on time.

Table showing bus connections between Amtrak's Heartland Flyer and Southwest Chief
Amtrak does not provide a timetable in a comparable format. Arrival and departure times appear on the boarding pass after the ticketing process is complete.

When booking on the Amtrak website, travelers must make sure their final destination through the connection points at Newton and/or Oklahoma City is part of the same reservation. This allows the Newton Amtrak agent, BeeLine drivers, and train conductors to see which passengers are transferring.

That’s especially important when trains are chronically late. Unfortunately, the Southwest Chief is regularly suffering hours-long delays this summer on BNSF Railway’s freight-heavy Southern Transcon. Through Saturday, July 29, the eastbound Chief arrived into Newton earlier than 4 a.m. only 11 times during the month. In contrast, the westbound Chief made the connection on 26 of 29 occasions; two of the misses were caused by tardy Chicago departures.

People standing around pickup truck outside train station
Passengers connecting to the Heartland Flyer who rode this pickup truck overnight from Newton, Kan., wait for driver Erik Huffman unload and unwrap their luggage in front of Amtrak’s ex-Santa Fe Oklahoma City station on July 20, 2023. The truck substituted for a van that was undergoing repairs. Bob Johnston

Nevertheless, passengers aren’t stranded at Newton in the wee hours. On the morning of July 20 for instance, the BeeLine bus and driver waited until after 5 a.m. for 18 passengers off the eastbound Chief. They were destined for Wichita or Oklahoma City, though none were ticketed for the Heartland Flyer.

However, one passenger off of the earlier arriving westbound Chief was traveling from Topeka, Kan., to Austin, Tex., and two others connecting to the southbound Flyer were scheduled to board the bus at Wichita. Since waiting until 5 a.m. for eastbound No. 4 would mean westbound No. 3’s passenger would miss the Fort Worth-bound train, BeeLine General Manager Jim Lynch arranged to have an independent contractor drive a second, “on time” departure out of Newton to Fort Worth. A van normally covering such occasions happened to be in the shop, so the passengers piled into its last-minute substitute: a Ford pickup.

A fourth southbound passenger off the westbound Chief (me) also squeezed in. My trip was booked Chicago-Oklahoma City and Oklahoma City-Marshall, Tex. on two separate reservations because this was the cheapest saver fare combination.

In hindsight, that was a big mistake. Had the other three passengers not been connecting to the Flyer that night, Lynch would not have known to schedule the extra trip. Though more expensive, booking the entire four-segment journey on one reservation would have ensured making all connections.

“Amtrak has given me latitude to hire a private contractor to haul connecting people separately so they can make the Heartland Flyer,” Lynch later tells Trains News Wire. “If a passenger misses a ticketed connection, at Amtrak’s expense we offer a Wichita or Oklahoma City hotel room and food voucher, then pick them up the next morning. We enjoy a fabulous relationship with Amtrak.”

Flyer won’t wait

A long-scheduled BeeLine stop in Wichita allows for some flexibility. “I can have the bus leave Newton 25 minutes late and still make the connection in Oklahoma City,” says Lynch, who also regularly communicates with the Chief’s Dodge City-Kansas City conductors to pinpoint the train’s progress. If the northbound Flyer is delayed, the BeeLine bus can wait no longer than 20 minutes due to tight bus connections at Wichita to other cities. In that case, a separate vehicle also brings passengers to Newton .

Passenger train at station platform with freight train visible in background
The southbound Heartland Flyer’s rear locomotive faces north toward Newton, Kan., as a southbound BNSF freight waits for the passenger train to leave on July 20, 2023. Bob Johnston

According to Lynch, Amtrak insists the Heartland Flyer’s Oklahoma City departure not be delayed — even 5 minutes — for one or two passengers. “When I’ve had five people or more connecting, they will hold the train for 15 minutes, but not a nickel more,” he says.

During the first nine months of Amtrak’s 2023 fiscal year, ridership rose 5.7% and revenue 12.4% from 2019; compared to the same period through June last year, both are up about 20%. Even with the growth, Amtrak last week announced a Heartland Flyer fare sale, reducing prices up to 35%.

The train has lots of personality, thanks to its friendly operating crew and veteran cafe attendant Merrill Graham, who stimulates sales by touting specialty cocktails on the morning run. More than a dozen BNSF Railway freights in both directions got out of the way, enabling an on-time arrival into Fort Worth, where the midday temperature was 103 degrees.

Should the Flyer be extended to Newton on a line without passenger service since Amtrak cut the Chicago-Houston Lone Star in 1979, there will likely still be a need for BeeLine’s customer focus and dedication if the eastbound Chief’s timekeeping continues to have problems.

10 thoughts on “Heartland Flyer’s challenging connections with the Southwest Chief

  1. The Bee Line bus connection is a worthy service to bridge the gap between Newton and Oklahoma City. However, in it’s attempt to serve the Southwest Chief’s connections “both ways”, as well as avoiding a too early arrival in Oklahoma City, it forces passengers into an uncomfortable middle of the night layover in the Newton depot. No TV, no WiFi, and some of the most garish lighting I have ever seen in an Amtrak waiting room. If only it was set up to load, with a much shorter layover, like most Amtrak thruway buses, and just get passengers to Wichita and Oklahoma City sooner. You would have to have the Oklahoma City depot opened up earlier, and Wichita would have a less desirable Southbound departure time. Moreover, I’m not sure how having a Heartland Flyer starting at Newton would improve the connection situation? It has the potential to negatively impact the timekeeping of the train further South. The real problem for the bus is the lack of available seats on the Southwest Chief to and from Chicago! It’s hamstringing the ability of ridership growth. Plus, passengers are allowed to travel from Texas to points West on the Southwest Chief, but availability is not present, ostensibly because of #4’s poor timekeeping, in the Amtrak computer for the return trip, . I am of the opinion that the Heartland Flyer should only be considered as an extension to and from Kansas City. Maybe start with only a short 6 month period to Newton to get the kinks worked out. Permanently staging the Flyer at Newton and depending on connections with the Southwest Chief, as Mr. Johnston emphasized, is a fool’s errand and a short sighted approach. Unless you block out at least 20 seats on the Southwest Chief at Newton for Flyer connecting passengers, you are setting it up for failure and a no ridership growth similar to the present bus.

  2. In addition to Heartland Flyer expansion, Amtrak is using other parts of the $66 billion federal infrastructure act for train improvements to expand and rebuild service around the country.

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  3. Extension and improvement of Amtrak’s existing Heartland Flyer service would enhance existing service between Fort Worth and Oklahoma City, bring new service to Wichita, and increase connectivity to the Amtrak network via Newton. Although Oklahoma City and Wichita are only 160 miles apart, the last time they were connected by passenger rail was in 1979. Additionally, the service would connect to the Texas Triangle routes included in Amtrak’s corridor vision. The Dallas/Fort Worth area is home to over 7.5 million people, the fourth largest in the United States, and the route in total would serve an area with over ten million residents.

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  4. For the time being, Tulsa is not included in Amtrak’s proposed OKC-to-Kansas passenger rail expansion.

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  5. Extend it to Chicago (combined with the SWC between Newton and Chicago) and Denver (combined with the SWC between Newton and La Junta). On the South end, extend it to Houston via Dallas. SB Flyers and Eagles should meet between Ft Worth and Dallas, so passengers can transfer KC-San Antonio at Ft Worth and St Louis-Houston at Dallas. Northbound Eagle and Flyer should also meet between Dallas and Ft Worth.

  6. Let’s establish an annual “Take One For The Team” award. I nominate Bob Johnston for this year’s prize.

  7. So I have to say that after reading about how the connections are handled, the location of the law office in the train station could be fairly convienent to some passengers.

  8. Us ATSF fans are rolling our eyes. Even I’m not old enough to rememeber, but I’ve read about it. That you could get from Chicago to Witchita ON A TRAIN.

    It was 1972, technically Amtrak but in actuality Santa Fe crews and equipment – I was WB on the Super Chief El Capitan at KCMO. Two EB passenger trains passed, the Super Chief El Capitan and the Texas Chief. Imagine a few years earlier when the San Franciso Chief and other Santa Fe trains were still running. You could get where you were going.

    1. They are considering extending the Heartland Flyer to the station of Newton and actually there is a lady in Kansas leading a grass roots effort to extend the flyer all the way to Kansas City Union Station. Though I am not sure how much influence she has. Extension to Kansas City might be a long shot because OK, KS and MO are not exactly wealthy states and the segment from Newton to KC, though not all that far would be expensive since it is along a very busy BNSF mainline.

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